Comments on: I Want My StackExchange

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:14:18 +0000

So hows this coming along? I'm a developer working on a startup that is based on an MS stack. It does feel a bit lonely at times. I'm looking forward to hear about this rumored “top objections to .NET” you mentioned.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:14:18 +0000

By: Mike Leach

Mike Leach — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:28 +0000

I'm doing quite a but of "unlearning" regarding persistence layer in web apps. But viable options emerging include:
CouchDB
Serialized JSON files
MemcacheD
Object oriented databases

Google GFS and BigTable come up quite a bit in discussions.

Salesforce.com's Database-as-a-Service and metadata API are a useful data modeling environment for 80% of web apps.

By: brandonwatson

brandonwatson — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:50:51 +0000

Mike, that's great feedback…can you go a little deeper on #2? What do you want here? What would be ideal?

By: Mike Leach

Mike Leach — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:29:01 +0000

I personally don't see it as a ".NET vs the world" issue. Many ground-floor architectural decisions are coming down to:

1) static vs. dynamic typing
Both .NET and Enterprise Java are losing ground here. Having to recompile and drop a DLL in the bin directory (or JAR file) is no way to run a high availability website.

2) SQL vs file system persistence
Both MS and Oracle are losing ground due to the frustrating lack of parity between object oriented development and relational persistence (ORM is just a workaround. Rails development is losing ground too).

The resurgence of functional programming in Javascript (for AJAX apps) dramatically decouples programming language from persistence layer.

3) hosting options
Amazon EC2 has set some precedent with pricing LAMP and Windows stacks separately ($0.02 more per hour for Windows). Patch Tuesdays are killing Win hosted sites. Even stripped down web or SMTP role servers need to bounce too often.

4) IDE performance
VS.NET and Eclipse just run too slow, even on 3GHz machines with 4GB RAM. Intellisense auto-complete is the only thing keeping IDE relevant.

By: brandonwatson

brandonwatson — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:05:11 +0000

Mike -

While StackOverflow is a community based on programming questions, what I am proposing is a community based on all the business end questions entrepreneurs and small businesses have.

As for the top objections to .NET, you will have to wait for the report out coming soon.

By: Mike Leach

Mike Leach — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:43:05 +0000

I rely on StackExchange for several .NET/JQuery related questions today. Are you proposing something different?

What were the top objections to using .NET in start-ups today?